(Podcast) When We're Not Working

Gavin Leonard, Matt Ryan
December 18, 2008

Change is in the air. Is the best way to make change from the inside or from the outside of the political system? Can you do both at the same time? Gavin and Matt bring on a fellow union organizer Casey Murphy to chew over these subjects, as well as the factory take over by worker's in Chicago, Naomi Klein, tattoos, and much more.

In addition to Wiretap, get all future "When We're Not Working" podcasts and learn more about Matt and Gavin, at our blog -- http://whenwerenotworking.wordpress.com -- and please email us at whenwerenotworking@gmail.com. What topic should we cover? Whom should we invite as our guest? Your feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Gavin Leonard (left) is the State Director for Ohio's Center for Progressive Leadership, based in Cincinnati. He is a co-founder, current board member and former executive director of Elementz - a local hip hop-based youth center. Gavin is a frequent contributor to WireTap, and he serves on the boards of the League of Young Voters, Wiretap Magazine, and the All-Ages Movement Project.

Matt Ryan (right) is the Cincinnati City Director of the Service Employees International Union Local 3. After organizing with SEIU in Chicago and Pittsburgh, he lead a successful three-year Justice for Janitors campaign in Cincinnati. The organizing drive secured living wages and healthcare for the first time for over 1,500 office cleaners. Matt grew up in St. Louis, Missouri and graduated from Grinnell College. Currently, he is an executive board member of the Cincinnati Central Labor Council and Hamilton County Democratic Party.